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    There are several threads about the updates from 16.5.2. What is unclear is whether or not the ever growing list of issues apply to Untangle branded hardware. I have a 6-month old z4 Plus that I purchased from Untangle. I have temporarily disabled updates. Can someone from Arista clarify the problems with the updates and make a recommendation as to what users should do?

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    We have not had any reports of this issue affecting the z4 appliance so I recommend for you to upgrade. The issue of interfaces changing their association is unfortunately something that has affected custom hardware installations for many years, and it's a difficult problem to solve. That said, we have made fixing this issue a top priority for the next release.

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    • #3
      Thanks

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      • #4
        Originally posted by bcarmichael View Post
        We have not had any reports of this issue affecting the z4 appliance so I recommend for you to upgrade. The issue of interfaces changing their association is unfortunately something that has affected custom hardware installations for many years, and it's a difficult problem to solve. That said, we have made fixing this issue a top priority for the next release.
        Beware, both Caswell and Lanner appliances in my fleet have reordered interfaces. So your stuff is not magic, and it's NOT immune. But it is limited to hardware configurations that have expansion bay interfaces installed. The order of the interfaces will remain unchanged, but the order the interface sets are stacked up next to each other can shift.
        Rob Sandling, BS:SWE, MCP, Microsoft Certified: Azure Administrator Associate
        NexgenAppliances.com
        Phone: 866-794-8879 x201
        Email: [email protected]

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        • #5
          I admit that I am in no way, shape or form, a developer. But is it really so hard for Untangle to include lines of code somewhere to have the configuration file include the last-known interface assignments and/or mapping? Bind it, for instance, to the port's MAC address.

          So regardless how the PHYs were initiated in-order or out-of-order during boot-up of the underlying OS, Untangle can just read said interface mapping from the config file as it loads up.

          Now, if the PHYs were actually modified (ie. NICs were added, removed, or changed), I would understand the mapping going haywire.... and that's acceptable. But if nothing changed on the hardware, I think it's reasonable expectation that the mapping remain the same after every reboot or even software updates.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oj88 View Post
            I admit that I am in no way, shape or form, a developer. But is it really so hard for Untangle to include lines of code somewhere to have the configuration file include the last-known interface assignments and/or mapping? Bind it, for instance, to the port's MAC address.

            So regardless how the PHYs were initiated in-order or out-of-order during boot-up of the underlying OS, Untangle can just read said interface mapping from the config file as it loads up.

            Now, if the PHYs were actually modified (ie. NICs were added, removed, or changed), I would understand the mapping going haywire.... and that's acceptable. But if nothing changed on the hardware, I think it's reasonable expectation that the mapping remain the same after every reboot or even software updates.
            You mean these? https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkInter...NG_.LINK_FILES

            Yes...
            Rob Sandling, BS:SWE, MCP, Microsoft Certified: Azure Administrator Associate
            NexgenAppliances.com
            Phone: 866-794-8879 x201
            Email: [email protected]

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            • #7
              Originally posted by bcarmichael View Post
              We have not had any reports of this issue affecting the z4 appliance so I recommend for you to upgrade. The issue of interfaces changing their association is unfortunately something that has affected custom hardware installations for many years, and it's a difficult problem to solve. That said, we have made fixing this issue a top priority for the next release.
              I'm finally home and ready to switch my auto update back to on. I'm still at 16.5.2.

              If I read through some of the posts, my current backup is no good on the current version?

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              • #8
                The latest is 16.6.2. Your backup file will work. The beta is the version that wont install the 16.6.2 backup but will install your 16.5.2 backup. Version 17 will have the .link files. https://forums.edge.arista.com/forum...034#post397034

                You might run into the .link file issue so do that just in case.

                LOL
                Last edited by donhwyo; 05-23-2023, 06:44 AM.

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                • #9
                  Update. Upgrade was a piece of cake. Thanks

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